Keep in mind that in some cities (at least in the US), city departments of tourism will subsidize a huge portion of the rental cost as an incentive to attract profitable convention business. The impact on some cities from hosting RCs can easily offset the cost of the rental. This is a tactic used by the WT (and anyone else bringing a convention to a small-mid-sized city). The tourism dollars from hotel stays/restaurants, etc can add up. Someone has posted here before examples of cities doing that. That's likely why you see many RCs being held in smaller markets. For example, in the NYC metro, they get so much tourist business, they aren't going to offer any incentives. But, Albany in the summer likely gets few visitors and is more inclined to go along.
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Last of the big conventions?
by NikL inhad lunch with some friends during today's waste of time convention.
they spoke of the rumor floating around that the jws will move away from these big regional conventions and have them at assembly halls and tie them in to kingdom halls.. they seemed to believe it was a pretty reliable source.. i think it would be too good to be true but who knows?.
anyone else heard this rumor?.
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How Knowledge is Dissipated in Talks
by Cold Steel inlondo111 » each congregation has a “talk coordinator”.
talk coordinators will coordinate with other talk coordinators in order to find speakers to give the public talk on sunday.
typically, they come from the general area: the circuit or a nearby circuit.
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Exactly Londo! This is one of the things that makes it a cult. It's really difficult for non-JWs to truly understand the level of control they exert. Just check out the beard discussion. I still can't believe I ever allowed them that level of control.
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How Knowledge is Dissipated in Talks
by Cold Steel inlondo111 » each congregation has a “talk coordinator”.
talk coordinators will coordinate with other talk coordinators in order to find speakers to give the public talk on sunday.
typically, they come from the general area: the circuit or a nearby circuit.
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100% agree with cofty. They don't even want you studying the bible in small groups.
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Asking a Jew about the Name "Jehovah"
by David_Jay injehovah's witnesses...that's the trademark of the religion, the use of the name "jehovah.
" if there is anything jws and non-jws can agree on is that this one thing sets them apart from everybody else.. i have only had witnesses come to my door less than five times since i left in the 1990s.
i guess they don't work the territory i live in often, or perhaps after that first time (which was still after the year 2000) they have marked the words "jew who knows a lot" or something in their notes on my address.
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I found this pretty interesting! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
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2017 Conventions
by Maryo inin view of the terrorist attacks going on in the world right now, as well as the high degree of animosity towards jehovah's witnesses as a result of their shuning practices, etc., i think it would be wise for the wts to discontinue meeting for large conventions and use live streaming and broadcasts instead.
even with the increased security measures being put in place this year, it would not be surprising if some incidents take place.
has anyone heard any talk in this regard?.
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No way that would happen. They run those RCs because they get a boatload of donation money. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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If Jesus had to choose his earthly organisation NOW, who would win?
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know that the society claims that jesus invisibly chose the bible students (forerunners of jw) in 1919 to be his organization here on earth.. yet, as we know, so much of what they then taught and did was wrong according to current teaching and practice.. the reply witnesses will give is something like "they were the most sincere seekers of truth blah blah...and jesus could see their potential".
so, pretend for a moment that the current organization and the 1919 organization were both in concurrent existence at the time he invisibly came to choose.... which would he choose?
the current or former?.
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Cool Steel - Are you saying the Catholic Church is Jesus organization? Seriously? I can't think of an organization with a worse history.
Plus, Jesus didn't put all that organizational structure in place. Paul did. Now, you may believe Paul was acting under Jesus instructions but that's difficult to prove. If Jesus wanted all that structure in place, why didn't he do it?
Reading the Gospel accounts, Jesus pointed out time and time again how power (religious or otherwise) corrupts and that following an organization was not the way. Didn't he say "I am the way".
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If Jesus had to choose his earthly organisation NOW, who would win?
by stuckinarut2 inwe all know that the society claims that jesus invisibly chose the bible students (forerunners of jw) in 1919 to be his organization here on earth.. yet, as we know, so much of what they then taught and did was wrong according to current teaching and practice.. the reply witnesses will give is something like "they were the most sincere seekers of truth blah blah...and jesus could see their potential".
so, pretend for a moment that the current organization and the 1919 organization were both in concurrent existence at the time he invisibly came to choose.... which would he choose?
the current or former?.
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Assuming Jesus was who his followers say he was, he wouldn't need an organization! And, he'd be awfully disappointed by the organizations that say the represent him.
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Any leaked GB expense receipts?
by Bad_Wolf ini heard how in the 80's the gb always flew first class, nice resort hotels, etc.
there are the photos of geoffrey with his 17k apple watch, etc.
unless they are paying for cash, many of these things would have a paper trail on credit card statements, etc.
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cha ching -I understand but most JWs don't see it. And most non-JWs couldn't give a crap about anything JW. Honestly, I think most religious leaders are hypocrites at best, charlatans more likely. Just another example of how they aren't any better than any other religion unlike the special status they claim.
Wakanda - yeah I'm higher than a gold but when I was gold I still got upgraded but not as frequently. The cross country flights are much harder to get into first class and you have a better chance on shorter flights at non-peak hours.
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Any leaked GB expense receipts?
by Bad_Wolf ini heard how in the 80's the gb always flew first class, nice resort hotels, etc.
there are the photos of geoffrey with his 17k apple watch, etc.
unless they are paying for cash, many of these things would have a paper trail on credit card statements, etc.
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I fly pretty frequently for work and get upgraded maybe 40% of the time to first class and the rest of the time to the 2nd tier economy plus with more legroom. I always buy a coach ticket. That's a free perk for individuals that have obtained certain status. I'm just flying domestically in the US. These guys fly internationally quite frequently. Plus domestically. I would venture to guess most of them have qualified for the top tier frequent flyer status and would be at the top of the list for upgrades. Also, many companies (mine included) allow you to book business class for international flights.
Remember, this is a business. The GB are the top executives of a multi-billion dollar business. Many companies top executives actually fly a private jet.
I also think the expensive possessions are likely gifts from wealthy JWs to curry favor.
While it's hypocritical for them to have expensive suits while admonishing JWs to not go to college and not worry about having careers, I think it's way down on the list of terrible things they do.
I think criticizing them on things like their awful child abuse policies and dangerous blood policies is more effective. Quite frankly, no JW would care about their spending and no one on the outside would either.
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RC 2017
by wifibandit indue to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
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I just watched that video and it really pisses me off. I was very young back then but old enough to know what was being said and quite frankly being scared to death. For them to continue to blame the R&F for the 1975 expectations is just unreal. If the "brother" in that video had expressed that "something wasn't right" during the lead up to 1975, he would have been run out of the congregation. Sigh, they really have no shame.